From: Ehab Heikal (ehab_at_elmotaheda.com)
Date: Mon 01 Nov 2004 - 22:32:28 GMT
I have been working on plesk for two years, yes it has some bad points users
love it. Simplifies life. Do you have any idea how your host installed it in
a vserver?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Fielding" <justin_at_okulyillari.com>
To: <vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vserver] Plesk 7
> Do yourself a favor, stay well away from plesk. It may look pretty and
have
> a few nice features, but I have it on a VPS and it takes so much control
of
> the system, it stops you upgrading certain packages (e.g. mysql), it uses
> it's own highly modified packages for some areas of the server etc. Just
> save yourself the headache and use something else.
>
> Unfortunaly I had to use plesk as it was part of the VPS package. I could
> not find a comparable Vserver host for the same kind of money. I get 15GB
> of space, 256MB dedicated ram etc etc for $40. Vserver setups seem to
give
> less for more money, some jokers even try and charge $100 for a Vserver
with
> 5GB of disk space etc, but you can get yourself a dedicated server for
that!
>
> Anyway, just don't use plesk, thats all I can say :)
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Justin Fielding,
> Intelliweb Ltd UK.
>
> A mission statement is defined as "a long awkward sentence that
demonstrates
> management's inability to think clearly." All good companies have one. -
> Scott Adams, The Dilbert Principle, 1996"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Ayres" <matta_at_tektonic.net>
> To: <vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vserver] Plesk 7
>
>
> > DirectAdmin and cPanel work for the most part. Quite a few things
> > work... jailshell doesn't work as it needs loopback image support,
> > quotas inside vserver don't work, under 1.2/1.3 when quotas work it's
> > still not perfect. No bandwidth management/logging works as the panels
> > use iptables inside VPS to count rules to track bandwidth. There are
> > quite a few more problems, but I can't remember them right now.
> >
> > On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 13:13, Ehab Heikal wrote:
> > > Well plesk is avialable for download if any of the developers want to
> test
> > > it.It is one of the most attractive control panels and thier virtuozzo
> is
> > > much more restrictive than vservers ( but supposedly better
> performance ).
> > > Are any other hosting automation control panels know to work with
> vserver.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Herbert Poetzl" <herbert_at_13thfloor.at>
> > > To: "vs-technik" <vs-technik_at_s-online.at>
> > > Cc: <vserver_at_list.linux-vserver.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 12:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vserver] Plesk 7
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 05:25:41PM +0200, vs-technik wrote:
> > > > > hello!
> > > > >
> > > > > >> EH> Has anyone tried to run the plesk 7 control panel in a
> vserver.
> > > > > >> EH> I did and it gives me errors. If nobody actually tried what
> > > > > >> EH> capabilities should I give a hosting control panel to be
able
> > > > > >> EH> to fully function.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> we have tested plesk7 a few weeks ago.
> > > > > >> the plesk-developer-crew have installed it on our
> vserver-machines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > HP> Sidenote: SWsoft does not only do control panels like
> > > > > HP> Plesk or Confixx it also produces and sells Virtuozzo ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> results:
> > > > > >> a lot of problems in vserver-context.
> > > > > >
> > > > > HP> maybe the plesk-developer-crew is not so experienced
> > > > > HP> in handling 'other' virtualization techniques ...
> > > > >
> > > > > indeed.
> > > > >
> > > > > HP> anyway, is there a list of issues you encountered
> > > > > HP> and can you tell if they are pleask or vserver related?
> > > > >
> > > > > this was done by a ex-team-colleague.
> > > > > i did not crosscheck the problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > there are only 2 "snaps" outof _my_ mailarchive,
> > > > > but maybe it can help somebody:
> > > > >
> > > > > *)
> > > > > | ... `hostname` command is intensive used in Plesk libraries,
> > > > > | so please not disable this feature. ...
> > > > >
> > > > > *)
> > > > > | 0: /usr/local/psa/admin/plib/cmd_mpc.php3:1 psaerror(string
> "Unable to
> > > generate data: Unable to get
> > > > > | system data: invalid value of psa_server_ip = ''") 1:
> > > /usr/local/psa/admin/htdocs/mpc.php:1
> > > > > | get_mpc_encrypted_data(string "extras_server", array)
> > > > >
> > > > > a workaround with a dummyscript should work.
> > > > >
> > > > > | /bin/hostname which will return '0':
> > > > > | #!/bin/sh
> > > > > | exit 0
> > > > >
> > > > > but the plesk-crew mean:
> > > > >
> > > > > | host `hostname`
> > > > > | ('hostname' should be original hostname utility from SuSE, not
> fake
> > > script).
> > > >
> > > > well, hostname, for example will work both to get and
> > > > to set the hostname inside a vs1.9.2 or later linux-
> > > > vserver guest .. so that should not pose any problem
> > > >
> > > > OTOH, host does just do ip lookup, and in this case
> > > > it's more likely to be a misconfigured dns/resolver
> > > > than any other issue ...
> > > >
> > > > > so far i got the infos,
> > > > > the main-problem was the restricted access to the
> hardware-resources.
> > > >
> > > > hmm, what would be the point in having a virtual
> > > > server, when this server has full access to the
> > > > hardware (resources) ...
> > > >
> > > > > p.s:
> > > > > we use on our vserver-machines only suse-linux.
> > > > > and plesk is not "stable" with suse.
> > > >
> > > > and not "stable" means?
> > > >
> > > > > lg.
> > > > > k.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the infos,
> > > > Herbert
> > > >
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